【节目导视】
患者身体出现类似艾滋病症状 痛苦不堪(我就感觉到自己很快就会离开这个人世了,每天内脏疼、关节疼、腿疼);
是“阴性艾滋病”还是“恐艾症”,专家给出确切答案(如果连续半年之内都是阴性,基本上可以说没有得艾滋病)。
敬请收看本期节目——《“阴性艾滋病毒”疑云调查》。8
【主持人】近日,国内一些网络论坛上出现了所谓“阴性艾滋病”的网帖。发帖者大都怀疑自己感染了艾滋病,虽然在血液检测中没有发现艾滋病病毒,但他们的身体都出现了淋巴肿胀、皮下出血、舌苔生绒毛等类似艾滋病的症状。这究竟是怎么回事儿呢?一起来看记者调查。
【解说】在广州,记者辗转联系上了自认为患上“阴性艾滋病”的林军(化名)和网名叫“痛苦人生”的两名患者。
林军是上海人,当过兵的他在一家医药企业负责安保工作。从2008年6月开始,不知为什么他发现自己淋巴开始肿大,并伴有乏力、盗汗现象,身上也慢慢出现了很多红点。之后全身淋巴开始胀痛,腋窝、腹股沟等部位起疹,胃部、肝脏等内脏也开始疼痛。从2008年6月到11月,他的体重下降了60斤。
【同期】患者 林军(化名):
实在挺不下去了,我就感觉到自己很快就会离开这个人世了,每天内脏疼、关节疼、腿疼,并且就像虫子在里面把我的身体全部啃掉一样的,从上面啃到下面。
【解说】来自浙江的“痛苦人生”则是在2009年5月发生一次高危性行为后,开始出现类似症状。
【同期】患者 “痛苦人生”(网名):
你皮肤粉末一样的(分泌物)一直在出现,人身体的症状还在出现,晚上盗汗,出皮疹啊,一直在出,人乏力、消瘦。
【解说】更让他痛苦的是,一段时间以后,妻子和孩子也先后出现了相同症状。于是夫妻俩开始四处求医。“痛苦人生”说,在一年多的时间里,他辗转全国数十家知名医院进行了近30次的检测治疗,前后花费了30余万元。
【同期】患者 “痛苦人生”(网名):
就是去年4月17号,生意全部卖掉了,店铺全部卖掉了,不做了,哪有心思做生意啊?你说,一家人全部出现了这样的症状,哪还有心思做生意啊?就一直在查病。
【解说】在他手上,记者看到了关于他和妻子近2厘米厚的、来自各大医院的检测报告。尽管各个医院检查都排除了艾滋病感染,但身体上的症状仍然让“痛苦人生”怀疑自己感染了艾滋病,所以就不停地去检查。上海市艾滋病诊疗中心主任卢洪洲就曾接诊过类似的患者。
【同期】上海市艾滋病诊疗中心主任 卢洪洲:
(我的)一位病人在不到一年的时间,反复做,做了80多次艾滋病的(抗体)检测,全部是阴性,他依然怀疑自己感染了艾滋病。
【解说】从2009年开始,就有一群自述疑似感染“阴性艾滋病”的感染者在网络上聚集,他们在QQ群中,互相交流自己的症状和感受。同时他们还向国家有关部门写信,希望引起重视。
卫生部在了解到这种情况后,从2009年7月开始,先后两次在全国6个省市开展了“自述疑似艾滋病感染人群”流行病学调查。结果显示,他们的艾滋病抗体检测均为阴性。
【同期】广东省疾病预防和控制中心艾滋病防治研究所所长 林鹏:
他们主诉的症状一个有像皮疹啊、关节响啊或者睡不着啊这些症状。从我们调查来看呢,就是从临床来讲,他们这些症状,临床医生看来跟他们主诉的症状还是有些不一致的地方。
【同期】北京佑安医院感染科主任医师 梁连春:
有这些症状也不代表你感染了艾滋病病毒,也不代表你就是艾滋病患者,所以最终确诊肯定要做血液的检查,做一个艾滋病抗体的确诊试验,如果连续半年之内你要是阴性的话,基本上可以说你就没有得这个艾滋病。
【解说】2009年9月至2010年1月,中国疾病预防控制中心曾组织59名自愿接受调查的“自述疑似艾滋病感染者” 来到北京,在地坛医院做了临床检查。检查结果显示:HIV抗体检测均为阴性, CD4细胞基本正常。
【同期】中国疾控中心首席流行病学专家 曾光:
最后检测结果就是说,没有发现他们群体上有什么器质性病变,HIV全部都是阴性的,没有一个阳性。就是说他们说的症状重,可是检查的症状很轻,最终考虑的话,他们说的症状跟临床大夫检测的证实不了,最后考虑他们可能是精神因素引起的。
【解说】虽然经过反复检查,都排除了感染艾滋病病毒的可能,这并没有打消林军他们的疑虑,于是有人开始怀疑这是由于一种“不明病毒”引起的全身性疾病,可通过唾液、体液以及血液传染。
【同期】患者 林军(化名):
这个6省市开展调查以后,他还是仅仅排除了艾滋、梅毒、丙肝,他没有从新病种或者新的不明病原体上去破解这个问题,他没有接受广大病友的观点,做一些新的病毒分离和细菌培养。
【解说】为了进一步打消这群人的疑虑,2011年1月,中国疾控中心又把59例样本送到美国加州大学病毒学实验室进行检测,那里能检测出15000种病毒,但截至到目前,尚未发现新病毒。
【同期】中国疾控中心流行病学首席专家 曾光:
美国加州大学旧金山分校,他们有很强的病毒检测的实力,因为他们有高通量的病毒芯片,可以查15000种病毒,这个咱们国内没有。对已知病毒基本都能控制,还有未知病毒也有探测能力。后来我们反复追问反复催,才告诉我们,他们检测三分之一了,发现都是阴性。
【解说】既然没有感染艾滋病,那又如何解释这群人身上出现的症状呢?在专家看来,一些人在发生易感染艾滋病的高危行为后,会对自身可能患有艾滋病产生强烈恐惧,并伴随焦虑、抑郁,从而导致免疫力下降,并出现一些不适的生理反应,然后将其与艾滋病症状对号入座。
【同期】精神病学专家、广州脑科医院主任医师 马崔:
因为他多疑、敏感,在这种心理暗示作用下,会产生一些躯体化的症状。像心跳加快、身体有灼热感、或者消化功能的不好,甚至有的引起舌苔变厚啊。
【同期】中国疾控中心首席流行病学专家 曾光:
整个这个群体的精神有倾向性的异常。主要表现在这些人,他们化解不良事件的这个能力差,既不能把这个事件升华了、也压不下去,也不能通过幽默方式来解决,那么这种结果就导致对自己精神的伤害。
【解说】精神病学和脑科专家认为,“恐艾”是“疑病症”的一种,而许多如癌症之类的绝症也存在相似的疑病症。这类人的性格特点一般比较认真、严谨,越查不出病,就越要查。 对这部分患者,最重要的是加强艾滋病知识的宣传普及,并配合适当的心理干预。
【同期】上海市艾滋病诊疗中心主任 卢洪洲:
首先要告诉他艾滋病是如何感染的,感染过以后它典型的临床表现,还有病毒在体内什么时候出现,抗体什么时候出现,我们用的方法是如何可以把它检测出来,要告诉他;第二个呢,就要对他进行一个心理方面的干预,对他进行心理方面的辅导,这样的话能够缓解症状。必要的时候少数患者要用一些抗焦虑这些药物给他进行治疗。
【主持人】卫生部新闻发言人邓海华表示:“阴性艾滋病”只是恐艾症状,根本没有什么未知病毒。同时有关专家也对此进行了详细地解答,有效缓解了公众的恐慌情绪。看来科学的解释是最有力的武器,只有将真相尽快公之于众,才是消除恐慌、制止谣言的唯一手段。好的,感谢收看今天的节目,再见!
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Xinhua aspect: "HIV negative" suspicions survey
www.XINHUANET.com 2011 年 04 月 13 日 14:03:02 Source: Xinhua
】 【Program guide
AIDS patients with similar symptoms of physical pain (I feel will soon leave the dead, day visceral pain, joint pain, leg pain);
Is "negative AIDS" or "fear of AIDS disease", the experts give the exact answer (within six months if all consecutive negative, basically said that does not have AIDS).
Please watch this program "-" HIV negative "Puzzle investigation." 8
Moderator】 【Recently, the country appeared in a number of online forums on the so-called "negative AIDS," the net posts. Posted by most suspect are infected with HIV, although not found in the blood HIV test, but their bodies have emerged in the lymphatic swelling, subcutaneous bleeding, hair and similar raw tongue symptoms of AIDS. This is how it was child it? With the view of journalists to investigate.
The explanation is in Guangzhou, contacted the reporter was removed from that suffering from "negative AIDS" Lin Jun (pseudonym), and network called "pain of life," the two patients.
Lin Jun from Shanghai, he had been a soldier in a pharmaceutical company responsible for security work. Starting from June 2008, I do not know why he found himself starting lymph nodes, accompanied by weakness, sweating phenomenon, who is also a lot of red spots appeared gradually. After starting systemic lymphatic pain, armpits, groin and other parts of Qi Zhen, stomach, liver and other organs began to ache. From June 2008 to 11 months, his weight dropped 60 pounds.
Patients over the same period】 【Lin Jun (pseudonym):
It really just do not go, I feel will soon leave the dead, day visceral pain, joint pain, leg pain, and just like worms inside my body all Kendiao the same as eating from the above to the following.
【Explanation】 from Zhejiang's "pain of life" is the place in May 2009 after a high-risk sexual behavior, began to appear similar to the symptoms.
】 【Same patients "suffering of life" (screen name):
The same as your skin powder (secretions) has been the emergence of the symptoms of the body is still there, night sweats, rash, ah, has been that human fatigue, weight loss.
【Explanation】 led to his suffering, the period of time, his wife and children have the same symptoms appeared. So the couple began around treatment. "Pain of life," said more than a year, he was removed dozens of well-known hospitals in the country nearly 30 times the detection of treatment, after spending more than 30 million.
】 【Same patients "suffering of life" (screen name):
April 17 is the last year, sold all business, shops sold all, do not do, where to do business mind ah? You said, the family appeared that all the symptoms, how can they have thought to do business ah? Disease has been in check.
【Explanation】 in his hand, the reporter saw about him and his wife almost 2 cm thick, from the major hospitals of the test report. Although each hospital were excluded from the AIDS infection, but the physical symptoms are still so "painful lives" suspect are infected with HIV, so stop to check. Hong-Zhou Lu, director of AIDS treatment center in Shanghai had a similar patient admissions.
】 【Year-Zhou Lu, Shanghai, Director of AIDS treatment center:
(I) a patient in less than a year, repeatedly done, done 80 times of AIDS (antibody) test, all negative, he still suspect are infected with AIDS.
【Explanation】 beginning in 2009, there is a group of suspected infection in the readme "negative AIDS" infection who gathered on the network, their QQ group to exchange their symptoms and feelings. They also write to the relevant state departments, to arouse attention.
Ministry of Health aware of this situation, starting from July 2009, twice in six provinces and cities nationwide to carry out the "readme suspected HIV infected people," epidemiological investigation. The results showed that their HIV antibody test were negative.
The same period】 【Guangdong Disease Prevention and Control Center AIDS Research Institute, Lin Peng:
They complained of symptoms like a rash, ah, ah, or sleep ah joint impact of these symptoms. View from our investigation, that is, from the clinical terms, they are these symptoms, clinicians seem to them or some of the symptoms complained of inconsistencies.
【】 Beijing You'an hospital infection over the same period, director of physician Liang Lianchun:
Have these symptoms does not mean you are infected with HIV, it does not mean you are living with AIDS, the final diagnosis must do blood checks, make a diagnosis of HIV antibody test, if within six months if you continuously negative, basically can be said that you do not have the AIDS.
【Explanation】 September 2009 to January 2010, the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention has organized 59 volunteers of the "readme suspected AIDS" to Beijing, to the altar in the hospital for clinical examination. Examination showed: HIV antibody test were negative, CD4 cells were normal.
【】 China over the same period, chief epidemiologist at the CDC had light:
Finally, test results means that their group has not found any organic disease, HIV were all negative, no positive. Means that the symptoms and they said, but check the symptoms are very light, the final consideration, they said, with clinical symptoms confirmed by the doctor can not detect, and finally to consider they may be caused by psychological factors.
【Explanation】 even after repeated tests, ruled out the possibility of HIV infection, this does not dispel their doubts Lin Jun, so people began to suspect that this is due to an "unknown virus" caused by systemic disease, through saliva, body fluids and blood infection.
Patients over the same period】 【Lin Jun (pseudonym):
The six provinces and cities to investigate, he was just ruled out HIV, syphilis, hepatitis C, he did not the new unknown diseases or new pathogens up to crack this problem, he did not accept the views of the majority of patients, some new virus isolation and bacterial culture.
【Explanation】 In order to dispel these doubts, January 2011, the Chinese Center for Disease Control sent samples of 59 cases again the University of California virology laboratory for testing, where can detect 15,000 kinds of virus, but so far not yet found a new virus.
CDC epidemiologist same】 【chief expert of China has been light:
University of California, San Francisco, they have a strong test of the strength of the virus because they have the virus chip high-throughput, you can search 15,000 kinds of viruses, this we are not any. Basically able to control for known viruses, there are also unknown virus detection capabilities. Then we have repeatedly asked repeatedly urging, only to tell us that they detected a third, and found all negative.
【Explanation】 Since there is no HIV infection, how to explain to these people the symptoms it? In the experts, some people susceptible to AIDS, in the event of high risk behavior will have on their own may have a strong fear of AIDS, accompanied by anxiety, depression, leading to decreased immunity and physiological responses of some discomfort, and then The condemnation of AIDS symptoms.
】 【Same psychiatrist, director of the Guangzhou Brain Hospital Dr Ma Cui:
Because he was suspicious, sensitive, in which the role of psychological suggestion, will produce a number of somatization symptoms. Such as heart rate, body burning, or poor digestive function, and even some tongue thickening caused ah.
【】 China over the same period, chief epidemiologist at the CDC had light:
The whole spirit of this group tendentious exception. Mainly in these people, they resolve the adverse events of this ability is poor, not able to sublimate this event, and also pressure does not go, can not be resolved through humor, then this result has led to the injury of his own spirit.
【Explanation】 psychiatry and neurology experts believe that "fear of AIDS" is a "hypochondriac," a kind, and many, such as terminal illness like cancer, there are also similar to hypochondria. Such human character is generally more serious, rigorous, more can not find the disease, the more investigation. This part of the patient, the most important is to strengthen the popularization of knowledge of AIDS, and with appropriate psychological intervention.
】 【Year-Zhou Lu, Shanghai, Director of AIDS treatment center:
AIDS is the first to tell him how the infection, infected after its typical clinical manifestations, and when the virus appears in the body, antibodies appear when we use the method of how it can be detected, to tell him; s two do, it is necessary for him to conduct a psychological intervention and psychological counseling him, so to alleviate the symptoms. A few patients when necessary to use some of these drugs to give him anti-anxiety treatment.
Moderator】 【Ministry of Health spokesman Deng Haihua, said: "HIV negative" is just fear of AIDS symptoms, but have no known viruses. At the same time the experts also conducted a detailed answer to this, the effective mitigation of the public panic. Scientific explanation seems to be the most powerful weapon, and only the truth as soon as possible will be made public, is the elimination of panic, the only way to stop the rumors. Well, thanks for watching today's show, bye!
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