耿丽娜与吉日木吐诗友谈艺录
丽娜写道：
吉日木吐君好!在论坛上看到您诗中表述,感觉您要出诗集了。首先向您表示祝贺!想向您索要一本诗集珍藏,可否?
您知道吗？什么时候读您赠于我那么多首热情洋溢的诗歌,心情都非常的愉快。特别喜欢您诗中那句,“喜欢你的,艺术而艺术的品格”。这种透彻的观察力和理解力,不是诗人是不可能写出来的。真诚的交流和文字的魅力永恒。
吉日回复：
您好，我现在还没有出诗集,要是出版的话,到时候会给你的。你的地址在哪里,你还没给我说吧？
我不知道把你和谁混淆了,哦，真对不起,我可能老了,想不起来,我的记忆力遭透了，一时间想不起原委,多多见谅，让我慢慢恢复记忆。
丽娜写道：
我住在北京宣武区，新买的公寓还没有住进去，现在是租的房子,地址将来会改变，到时候再告诉您详细的地址。
原来我不明白，您在论坛只发作品,从来不回贴、跟贴。今天我有些理解了，诗歌对于爱好诗歌的人来说,首先是一种精神的滋养。作为诗人,在这个浮华的论坛上，保持审慎而适度的隔膜，好像有些好处。不知我的看法是否正确?
吉日回复：
真的有点迷茫了。呵呵,你在北京上班啊。不容易,在大城市生存。
首先我恭喜你有了自己的住房,这样你更加安定了。可是我想还有个认识的人,在北京,在信笺里通过信，她叫耿丽娜，有一段时间没联系了，她是搞艺术的,所以我有点混淆了。你不是在山东吗？信笺里说在政教处工作，是吧？不管怎样，你生活工作顺利就行，你为艺术而艺术真的难得。你是雨娜吗？偶尔在情感或会馆里写诗歌的，呵呵,你说过要当我的学生吗？
说实在，我哪有时间回帖，交流啊。牛车一样慢慢的赶路，是我的任务，因为在落后，走在人们背后了保持沉默，并不是故意装作深沉。
丽娜写道：
吉日君, 我是河南南阳人,音乐专业,原是专业文艺团体的首席小提琴演奏师，现为自由职业者。不是雨娜.也不是山东人。也许您不必要把我和谁混合,只要记住我“艺术而艺术的品格”就行了。很幸运在论坛和博客上认识这么多真诚而有才华的文友。您写的诗歌作品中反映生活，什么内容都可以入你诗歌，奇思妙想，简洁明了，读来也是别有一番情趣和风格。
我认为，诗歌是灵性的产物,它来自一个人心灵的深处,学是学不来的。说学写诗歌的人,永远只可以做匠人,而成不了艺术家。一个人艺术才华最主要的是天赋,第二位才是勤奋。不知我的观点是否正确?
呵呵````记忆力倒成了吉日木吐君的优势之处。欣赏!
吉日回复：
别生气,丽娜老师,股票还买着吗？我很高兴你有了自己的房子，生活就更加安定了。前两天有个雨娜的和我通信，我以为是她。你好长时间了没有在新华论坛发帖子，断定你可能在忙碌着，偶然出现让我感到惊讶。批评我一顿，多批评吧，我老老实实地承认错误，并接受你的教育，到时候拜访你,会接受我吧？
你真是为艺术而艺术的女神，并有着自己的艺术观点，难得。自由职业,真让人欣慕。我敬畏你，也钦佩你，作为好朋友，我也感到荣幸，你是那么诚挚的，一点不隐瞒自己的观点。
是啊，诗歌的种子，是化学的反映，是物理的作用，更是历史的责任。
丽娜写道：
我认为，论坛、博客是发表作品和言论的一个平台,是现代生活的一个组成部分,但并不是全部。这段时间因为较忙，没有往论坛发表作品。做股票是一种生活的体验，常泡在论坛会感到有些无聊，常泡在股票上面就没有了诗意，看来把握一个度字很重要。闲散恬淡的生活心态，也应该是一种方式吧。
欣赏您的一首诗中这么一句：“不管前途浩瀚中的渺渺,歆羡女子刚强卓绝的自我追求.”写出了现代女性的一种自我追求的精神，很欣赏!
吉日回复：
你爱讲理论的解释，还有典型的诗歌追求者， 也就是艺术的代言人。 从某些意义上， 讲述一个诗人的侧面， 这是理论上的标志。
哦，
我爱上你，
这种可爱的风貌，
为了艺术而艺术，
超越世俗的一面。
我爱你的艺术人生，
不带一点尘世的庸俗。
啊，
我的爱人，
心中飘荡的云彩，
你就是我的全部。
你是我梦中的歌声，
真正的维纳斯，
东方女神，
我爱你一生一世。
丽娜写道：
哈哈~~`吉日君呀,一会丧失记忆,瞬间又如痴如醉，内心一派天真烂漫，不圆滑，不世故，善感多情，是诗人的真性情也，丽娜欣赏并陶醉中！！
吉日回复：
我还是敦促自己，
快一点走路
与粑粑啦一通
那是想像里的东方诗歌女神
更多的情思
像一些绿叶紧凑的挂在根茎上
延伸在地面的院落里
它们感到了夏天的雨水之充足
想到香山的存在
感到亭亭玉立的婀娜时
一段缘分和佳话在诗人的胸怀里
莫名的奠基了垂帘听琵琶的幕语
丽娜写道：
是啊，我喜欢创造性的思维和快乐，常常乐此不疲，看见那些墨守成规的文字就腻味。而中国在各个方面都需要生气勃勃，有创造思维的人。但我们的教育模式，恰巧失败在这个方面，甚至毁掉了几代人。
经营文字，就像经营企业一样，应该独具特色，还得面面俱到。把文章写透，让人读后感到新鲜、有趣、共鸣、痛快、舒服，若有所思，文章就写到位了。一个好的小说家和散文家，可能会是一个好的企业家，在这方面我一点都不怀疑。
这段文字，我已经画龙点睛，尽管还需要不断的修改，但已经成型。如果不是您冒冒失失的把先前那段文字发到网上，我可能还没有这份心思。一定程度上是您促使我做了这个工作。一个好的写手，也应该是一个好的编辑，毕竟艺多不压身。
RECORD OF THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN MRS. GENGLINA WITH MR. JIRMOTO ABOUT POEMS
RECORD OF THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN MRS. GENGLINA WITH MR. JIRMOTO ABOUT POEMS
Lina. Geng
lina.Geng:
How are you, Mr. Jipmoto! I had read the poems you publicate on the forum. I understand that you are going to publicate a collection of your poems. Congragulations ! May I have one of your published poem- collections?
Do you know, every time when I read all those enthusiastic poems you written and presented for me, how glad I am! I do much appreciate the section you wrote in you poem: “ I like your very artistic of the character of your poems”.
Such deepness of observation and understanding could only be expressed by a poet.
Long last the heart-to-heart inter-exchanges between us and the charm of literature!.
Jirmoto:
How are you. My collection of my poems haven’t published at present. But you will have it when it is published. But you had to tell me your address.
Excuse me please, I might been confused your exactness with others.
I’m sorry, I am old with poor remembrance. I had to recall these things for more time.
lina.Geng:
I’m living in the district of Xuan-wu. The apartment now I am living is a rented one. But I had purchased a newly constructed apartment in the same district. I’ll move there soon, and would inform you the exact address of it.
I found that you rarely present your comment on the forum. Now I realized that those people devoted in poems, poems are the result of nutritious of spirits.
At present, on this florid forum, it might be advantageous to be cautious and keep estrange.
Jirmoto:
Oh you are working in Beijing! I’m somewhat confused. It is ot easy to subsist in such a big city.
Congragulations, that you have your own apartment and settled there.
Now I remember that I have another acquaintance in Beijing, Mrs. Genglina. We had exchanged letters. But we hadn’t communicated for some time. She is an artist.
Now I am rather perplexed: as I remember you are working in Santong. Are you Mrs. Yuna? She wrote poems, and intended to be my student.
Regarding the comments, in fact I haven’t any time to write comments on the forum. I am accustomed to walk slowly as an ox-drive. I keep silence, or keep deepness, only because I had lagged behind. I’m not intentionally.
Genglina:
Mr. Jirmoto, I was born in Nanyang. A city in the province of Henan. My speciality is music, had been the first-violinist in a Art and Literature organization. But now, I am a professional person.
I’m not yuna, and wasn’t born in Shangtong. You need’t to confuse me with other person. Please put in mind, that I am a person with character of very artistic for arts.
I am so fortunate that I had acquainted so many sincere and gifted friends on the forum and blog.
The poems and creations you written collected any contents you were interested, either simple or clear. They are charming and having their own style. They reflect live!
I believe that Poem is a product of intelligence. It surges only from the deepness of heart, and it can’t be learnt.
The artistic talent could only be gifted. Intelligence is mainly gifted, and the next element is diligence.
It’s interesting that your poor remembrance gains a superiority. Its admirable!
Jirmoto:
Don’t be angry, teacher Lina. Do you dealing with stocks? I’m glad that now you have you own apartment, and you could life quietly. Several days before, Mrs Yuna wrote to me. I thought that it’s you!
You haven’t place your comments on the Xinhua Forum for a long time. I guess that you are quite buzzy in these days. I was astonished when you suddenly appeared. Please criticize me. I admit that I had made mistakes. I accept your teaching. Will you accep me when I visit you?
You are really a Goddess, working for art, and art, having your own points of view about art and literature. It’s hard to meet. A admirable professional. I revere you, admire you. I feel been honoured. You are so codial, presents your point of view frankly.
I agree your point of view: Seeds of poem, reflects the chemical reaction and also the result physical reactions. More than these, it also reflects the responsibility of history.
lina.Geng:
I understand that Forums and Blogs are platforms for expressing creations and ideas. They a part of modern life.
I was engaged in recent days. And I hadn’t had any creations on the forum. Dealing with stocks is a kind of learning of life. But soaking in the forum is boring. And soaking in the stock market will lost one’s poem instincts. It seens to us that it is important to hold the degree of our interests. And keep a leisurely unhurried life and a tranguil mental state might be a suitable style of life.
I appreciate one of the sentences written in your poem:
“No matter how far away would be the vast expanse of desert, I admire the staunch spirit of a woman, who pursuit her object firmly”. It expressed the exact spirit of a modern woman.
Jirmoto:
I find that you like to interpret theoretically. There are some people persuing poem typically. They are spokesmen of art. In a certain meaning,to describe the spirit of a poet, and it is a mark of theory.
Oh, I love you,
Such lovely your features,
Very artistic of your artistic character.
Without a bit of vulgarism of this moral world.
Oh, my lovely,
The flowing cloud in my heart,
You are my entireness, You are the song I heard in my dream,
A real Venus,
An Eastern Angel,
I love you with all my life.
lina.Geng:
Ha ha, Mr. Jirmoto, although you had lost your memory, but you turned up infactuated instantly. Innocent and artless in your heart, not slickful, or with smooth character. Sensitive and sentimental, that’s the real charactor of a poet. Lina appreciates and been intoxicated!!
Jirmoto:
should urge myself to walk faster.
Together with Babarra, the Goddess of Oriental Poem.
More tender feelings
As green leaves closely attached to the rhizome
Extended on the ground of the courtyard.
Enjoys the abundant Summer rainfall
Think about the existence of Xian Shan in Beijing
Had the feeling of a slim and graceful woman,
A period of lucky encounters and interesting stories existed in the heart of poet.
They are the foundations of listening behind the screen the music played by instrument pipa.
lina.Geng,
Oh yes, I often devote myself to creative thoughts.
I enjoy the happiness of creative thoughts. But am boring to those writings stick to conventions. China needs more lively and vivid personnel in all aspects, China yearns for talented, qualified personnel with creative thoughts in all fields. But the pattern form of our education, made failure in this aspect. And even had spoiled several generations.
The management of literature should have its own character as the management of enterprises. It should have its own characteristic, attended to every aspect of a matter.
The literary works written should give it’s reader a conspicuous understanding. Made them feel fresh ,interesting, responsive, delighted, comfortable , satisfied and more thinking.
I’m quite sure that a good novelist and essayist might also be a good manager.
I had add the finishing touch of my work, although it might need more revisions. Anyhow, it is patterned.
Your abruptness in delivering those paragraphs I written on the forum urged me to complete my work. Otherwise I might not have the idea to finish it.
In a certain degree, I confess that you promoted me to complete my work. Thanks.
I believe , a good writer should also be a good editor, as people could work easier with more technique..
(Jirmoto is a poet of Inner Mogolia)
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